Editor's note: These minutes have not been edited. Daniel Karrenberg daniel@riope.net Cengiz Alaettinoglu cengiz@isis.edu Actual Agenda Monday 1) Tunnels in RPSL Dave Meyer 2) Changes to RPSL draft Cengiz Alletinoglu 3) RPSL in whois server David Kessens Wednesday 1) RAToolSet Update Cengiz Alaetitinoglu 2) As Objet Editor (aoe) WeeSan Lee 3) Distributed IRR Architecture Tuesday: 1) Tunnels in RPSL Dave Meyer 2) extends inet-rtr object 3) adds the tunnel class Discussion: David Moyer: a) Can a tunnel be point to multi-point ? b) Most of the work is based on the dvmrp/mbone tunnels c) Need to have feed back on GRE, IPv6 d) (masklen, /, mask) - voted that it would be optional it's optional to 2) Changes to RPSL draft Cengiz Alletinoglu Discussion: a) Community attribute needs to have 3 values b) (masklen, /, mask) - voted that it would be optional c) as-any - question about where we get none (From Randy - needs work) d) Dirty prefixes - how do we keep them out Is there consensus that it will be put in application document? - Martian/dirty e) Internal versus External policy f) What are we going to with document - Need to resolve the contention with Curtis and the policy. Need to have resolution by end of January. - Need to Proposed Standard. Consensus D) RPSL in whois server David Kessens 1) incompatibilities in representation formati 2) performance - only so much performance by current RIPE architecture - solutions involved precomputing everything, including syntax sugar, and smarter index - 2/3 times the current speed 3) new objects route-set as-set as-summary 4) New attributes member-of, ineject-at, aggregate-by, export-components, members, members-by-referral, igp-to-egp, epg-to-igp, rp-attribute, protocol, typedef, alias [abbreviations and suggests] 5) Syntax checking How much should the program fix? Randy's comment - what I put in is what I should get out. Please don't change it. 6) Conculsion: - RPSL implementation in RIPE register is on-going performance improvements now, syntax next ietf - RIPE register is adequate to start deployment of RPSL visible changes for community - Changes to R-whois Terminate Sessions at 11:45am. Wed: 1) RAToolSet Update Cengiz Alaetitinoglu RPSL is to be implemented. Comments and suggestions were make on the suggested changes to RtConfig and Roe work. 2) As Object Editor (aoe) WeeSan Lee Suggestions were made about as_macros. 3) Distributed IRR Architecture Ramesch Govindan. Questions: if many duplicates, which one is authorized how to authenticate source of objec? Initial Solution - 1 registered authorized for object - off-line, a central authority assigns registery a cooke - cookie contains what object a register is authorized for - cookie contains registry key to authenticate object Questions: 1) can you use 509 certificate? - AS can use - Route network works for rights inherited 2) Should look at the ops direction 4)trwhoisd Gerald Winter trawhois is local cached version of the rwhois. A lighter weight, faster version of rwhois with local cahce of information. ------- end ------- Cengiz -- Cengiz Alaettinoglu Information Sciences Institute (310) 822-1511 University of Southern California http://www.isi.edu/~cengiz