INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the June 26, 2003 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Dinara Suleymanova, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / IAB Liaison Marcia Beaulieu / IETF Secretariat Randy Bush / IIJ Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Erik Nordmark / Sun Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Michelle Cotton / ICANN Jacqueline Hargest / IETF Secretariat Bert Wijnen / Lucent MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the June 12, 2003 Teleconference were approved pending the removal of Microsoft characters. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Review of Action Items DONE: o Allison and Thomas will email Secretariat note to send to RFC Editor about 3GPP RFC Editor documents. o Ned to write an IESG note for draft-tegen-smqp (Informational). o Allison Mankin to submit a Revised Charter for the Next Steps in Signaling WG (nsis) to the Secretariat. Secretariat to send a WG Review Announcement with copy to new-work@ietf.org. o Secretariat to include teleconference bridge/call-in details in teleconference packages going forward. DELETED: o Steve to generate a summary of IESG views of the "problem." IN PROGRESS: o Allison to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs and send decision to IESG. o Erik to document process of how the IESG goes about asking architectural questions of the IAB. o Thomas to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft." o Thomas to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Randy and Ned to finish ID on Clarifying when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at a Lower Level. o Alex to send proposal and justification for interim document review. o Steve to propose a different document classification than the current info/proposed/etc. o Harald Alvestrand to talk to RFC Editor about independent submissions. o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorates and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN working group. NEW: o Thomas Narten to coordinate and send comments on minutes to the Secretariat. IESG to review the format of the minutes and propose changes to improve readability and communication to the outside world. o Steve Bellovin to make proposal to discuss "problem" at the Sunday IESG meeting in Vienna. o Thomas Narten to write up issue with references in draft-dasilva-l2tp-relaysvc-06.txt and start discussion in IESG list. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis.txt - 1 of 3 The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-13.txt - 2 of 3 SDP: Session Description Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Peterson, Jon The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Ned Freed, Ted Hardie and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-07.txt - 3 of 3 RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-08.txt - 1 of 3 The Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-sipping-overlap-04.txt - 2 of 3 Mapping of Integrated Services Digital Network (ISUP) Overlap Signalling to the Session Initiation Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp.txt - 3 of 3 Link Management Protocol (LMP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Zinin, Alex The document was added to the agenda by Alex Zinin and remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Thomas Narten and Russ Housley.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-legg-ldapext-component-matching-10.txt - 1 of 1 LDAP & X.500 Component Matching Rules (Proposed Standard) Token: Hardie, Ted The document was deferred to the next teleconference by Harald Alvestrand and Bill Fenner. 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-speechsc-reqts-04.txt - 1 of 7 Requirements for Distributed Control of ASR, SI/SV and TTS Resources (Informational) Token: Peterson, Jon The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is needed. o draft-ietf-nsis-req-08.txt - 2 of 7 Requirements for Signaling Protocols (Informational) Token: Mankin, Allison The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* A revised I-D is needed. o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-restart-applic-01.txt - 3 of 7 Applicability Statement for Restart Mechanisms for the Label Distribution Protocol (Informational) Token: Zinin, Alex The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-manet-olsr-10.txt - 4 of 7 Optimized Link State Routing Protocol (Experimental) Token: Zinin, Alex The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-supp-compact-01.txt - 5 of 7 Compact Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes (Experimental) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note regarding IANA considerations to be prepared by Thomas Narten and Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-crisp-requirements-05.txt - 6 of 7 Cross Registry Internet Service Protocol (CRISP) Requirements (Informational) Token: Freed, Ned The document remains under discussion by the IESG.* o draft-ietf-v6ops-unman-scenarios-02.txt - 7 of 7 Unmanaged Networks IPv6 Transition Scenarios (Informational) Token: Bush, Randy Ted Hardie and Allison Mankin will send comments to the IESG on this document. 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-multi6-multihoming-requirements-07.txt - 1 of 3 Goals for IPv6 Site-Multihoming Architectures (Informational) Token: Bush, Randy The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-requirements-01.txt - 2 of 3 Requirements of a QoS Solution for Mobile IP (Informational) Token: Mankin, Allison The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-05.txt - 3 of 3 Tracing Requirements for Generic Tunnels (Informational) Token: Wijnen, Bert The document was approved by the IESG pending confirmation from Alex Zinin that Randy Bush approves. Upon notification from Alex Zinin, the Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-lear-tftp-uri-06.txt - 1 of 1 URI Scheme for the TFTP Protocol (Informational) Token: Hardie, Ted The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt - 1 of 4 The 'doi' URI Scheme for Digital Object Identifier (DOI) (Informational) Token: Hardie, Ted The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. The Secretariat will send a Do Not Publish note prepared by Ted Hardie to the RFC Editor. o draft-foster-mgcp-bulkaudits-09.txt - 2 of 4 The Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Bulk Audit Package (Informational) Token: Peterson, Jon The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. Jon Peterson will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor. o draft-eastlake-xxx-06.txt - 3 of 4 .sex Considered Dangerous (Informational) Token: Alvestrand, Harald The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor. o draft-baker-slem-architecture-01.txt - 4 of 4 Cisco Support for Lawful Intercept In IP Networks (Informational) Token: Alvestrand, Harald The document was assigned to Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will update the ID-Tracker. 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks - 1 of 3 Token: Narten, Thomas Thomas Narten and Alex Zinin will send a message to the IETF mailing list regarding the formation of the two working groups: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks and Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks. Both working groups were approved by the IESG. However, the Secretariat will not send the WG Action Announcements until it receives the go-ahead from Alex Zinin. o Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks - 2 of 3 Token: Narten, Thomas See decision under Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks o Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery - 3 of 3 Token: Mankin, Allison Allison Mankin will provide a revised charter to the IESG for review. The Secretariat will send a WG Action Announcement when Allison Mankin confirms that the IESG has approved the new charter. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues o Issues on L2TP Active Discovery Relay for PPPoE - added by Thomas Narten (discussed) o Issues on "problem" group - added by Harald Alvestrand (discussed) ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.